Oh, give me a break
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May. 17th, 2009 @ 11:01 am
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Mr Barnett described the poll question as “unnecessarily complex” and said he believed West Australians would not have to go back to the polls on the question for at least another decade.
1) I'm sorry, what?
This was the question: Are you in favour of daylight saving being introduced in Western Australia by standard time in the State being advanced one hour from the last Sunday in October 2009 until the last Sunday in March 2010 and in similar fashion for each following year?
That question is not too complex, that question lays out the terms of the referendum. And hardly anyone is going to read the damn question anyway, because EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE DAMN STATE knows full bloody well that the question is: Do you want Daylight Saving Time in WA? Yes or No? Don't imply that people will be voting No because they're too stupid to understand the question.
2) Oh, for fuck's sake, back to the polls on this in another decade? This was the FOURTH FUCKING TIME ALREADY, and the margin is looking like being WIDER THIS TIME THAN LAST TIME, and for the love of God GET OVER IT AND STOP TRYING. The majority of Western Australian people DO NOT WANT DST, now SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT IT.
One of the arguments this time was that a whole generation had never had a chance to vote on it. Well, guess what - we did, and the margin against got wider, because DST is an antiquated concept that may have some validity in countries like England but doesn't have any here, and if we have to have this fucking argument again I demand at least another generation's worth of time first because we've HAD OUR CHANCE TO VOTE ON IT and we FUCKING SAID NO, okay?
There is no AMBIGUITY on this. It's a clearly-defined question. Everyone's talked about it, everyone's been subjected to this shit for the last three years, and the ballot only gave us options of YES or NO (or spoiling the ballot, realistically). Everyone was legally required to vote, so no citizen was left out - there's a reason we don't have Get Out The Vote initiatives in this country. FUCKING DROP IT ALREADY.Current Mood: really damn sick of DST
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What IS the point of DST other than confusing people? I grew up in a tropical country, and when I first encountered DST in NZ I was confused as all hell. And then got more confused when I went to the Northern Hemisphere.
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| From: | sami |
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May 17th, 2009 03:30 am (UTC) |
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It gives people more daylight in the evenings, is the theory, I believe. In extremely northern countries, it does have a use - more available use of sunlight means people can make use of the evening sun, and get more sunlight (which has health benefits)... some studies have shown that it even reduces energy consumption.
In those countries.
The only study done here, however, showed it increased energy consumption, because people were coming home in the full heat of the afternoon and using their air conditioners more. We don't have a shortage of sunlight here.
becuaes Australia isn't too low in the latitude right? If I remembere correctly, it's NZ that's much lower in latitude than Aussie.
if the country isn't far off the equator then there shouldn't BE a DST. God knows that DST drives me crazy and I know that there is SOME use to it in Ohio.
Yep, same thing has happened in several U.S. studies -- energy savings caused by less use of lighting gets cancelled out or even exceeded by increased demand for A/C. And of course that doesn't take into account any of the less-easy-to-quantify human costs of sleep disruption. (I'm very sensitive to light levels and have sleep issues at the best of times, so this bothers me a lot and makes for an extremely difficult adjustment.) DST can be useful for folks in higher latitudes, but in places where there's not such a huge seasonal difference in daylight length it's pretty pointless.
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| From: | trouble |
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May 17th, 2009 06:52 am (UTC) |
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I live in Canada (and grew up in northern Canada) and I think DST is wonderful and beautiful and awesome here. By the end of December, even with the "extra hour" of afternoon, it's dark by 5 p.m. I used to go to work in the dark and come home in the dark, and it was depressing.
When I lived in Australia, I saw no point to DST. Sami's totally right about the abundance of sunlight.
well I grew up in a place that had 12 hours dark and light all year round, so I get confused easily. >.>
Still get confused by the sun setting at 9pm in Ohio, actually, because t doesn't feel right.
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| From: | trouble |
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May 17th, 2009 06:56 am (UTC) |
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To me, 12 hours of light/dark sounds so awesome, but I have no idea. ;)
Tropics for the win! >.>
(Which makes me go, I wanna go hooooooommmmmeeee. And also, where are the books set in tropics? T_T Why do people keep going on and on about long evenings? Singapore's dusks last... oh, maybe half an hour at most. Actually, less.)
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| From: | nicki |
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May 17th, 2009 03:47 am (UTC) |
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*dropping note, informing you of subscription* We've been semi-orbiting around some of the same journals (and I thought your story about the peacocks was fun).
(and now to be on topic) I love DST, but I'm in the US, so the latitude is different. Also, I am not a morning person and I get seasonal affect disorder, so extra evening sun is A+ IMO.
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| From: | trouble |
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May 17th, 2009 06:50 am (UTC) |
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Sami is awesome.
Nicki is also awesome.
This is my Public Service Announcement. :)
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| From: | nicki |
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May 17th, 2009 07:02 am (UTC) |
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Trouble is also awesome. *basks in the awesomenity*
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