sami: (bitch please)
Sami ([personal profile] sami) wrote2009-03-19 04:07 pm

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Anyone interested in helping [livejournal.com profile] alias_sqbr out with Feminism 101, head here. I don't have the spoons for this one...

[identity profile] angrylemur.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
"If women want women to decide womens' issues, they should just elect some!"


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD THERE IS SO MUCH WRONG WITH THAT I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START

Seriously, it's kind of spectacular when someone is that obtuse. It's like a beautiful pony. I almost hate to ruin it.

[identity profile] tevriel.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean. I've known the guy for almost a decade, he's really not a bad guy, just... I don't know how it's possible to be able to say that, as someone who has the kind of friends I KNOW he has.

I don't have the strength to take on this one, I really don't.

[identity profile] angrylemur.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm having a day where I yell at people on the internet, it seems. Yeah. So, no worries, I can take it.

Though I'll refrain, for your sake, by just typing "You're WRONG you're WRONG you're WRONG" followed by the lyrics to The State-Lottery by Propagandhi.

[identity profile] troubleinchina.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think my favourite part of any discussion like this is whose expected to think of these issues.

My prof in class the other day also argued that the woman's movement was a failure because we didn't have a majority of women politicians here in Magical Canada Land. "Why don't women vote for women?" he asked. When I said "Why don't men?" he got quite snippy with me and said men weren't anything to do with it.

(Then I was informed that lack of access to child care was an "excuse" for why women don't make it out to the polls, and told that women have cars, damn it. Because... all women are middle- to upper-class and have easy access to child care and aren't working more than one job, even though your chances of actually voting lessen depending on your economic status. I guess I shouldn't expect any better of a class that doesn't think the sexism in the Civil Rights movement is relevant, the racism in the feminist movement is relevant, the homophobia in either movement is relevant, and that the important voices in the fight for contraception are college-aged white men.)

[identity profile] angrylemur.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
And all of that is based on the assumption that voting in the system we have now actually does a damn thing. Which it doesn't!
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[personal profile] alias_sqbr 2009-03-19 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I was sitting there going o.O for a bit there. I'm going to take a mental break until I can think of anything to say to next his reply apart from "IT'S THIS THING CALLED SEXISM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF IT"

[identity profile] tevriel.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad it's not just me (of the people who've actually met him, etc) going O.o at that. It's out of the blue, right? RIGHT?

(Although Chas's response helps with that quite a lot, too.)
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[personal profile] alias_sqbr 2009-03-20 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, after replying to you I thought about it some more and remembered his occasional tendency to troll and was less o.O and more >:/

[identity profile] grahame.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh come on, it's some good natured trolling :-) Apologies for any actual offense caused, no need to someone the mob to come get me.

[identity profile] tevriel.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
And lo, the circle of fail is complete.

[identity profile] grahame.livejournal.com 2009-03-19 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely. You should see some of the high quality discussions I have on IRC.

Anyway, sincere apologies for any discomfort caused. I should probably think before I post things on the internet.

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[personal profile] alias_sqbr 2009-03-19 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Not so much offended as irritated, and significantly less likely to give you the benefit of the doubt and bother explaining myself next time you reply to something of mine with a spurious counter-argument :P